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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 9:51 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On Tomas Kaberle
matty_ice_30
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 29 @ 9:56 AM ET
Can we sign Kab and cut Harrold. I can not stand Harrold. Harrold will be a scratch most nights anyway. He will go in if someone needs rest or injured. He gets thrown around like a rag doll. Kab at least has some size and can make plays to his Czech mates.
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Aug 29 @ 10:01 AM ET
Just bodies for camp and to make sure the "rookies/younger players" don't get too complacent. There has been a lot of talk about the younger D-men getting the spots but they will still have to earn it!
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Aug 29 @ 10:01 AM ET
One question.....Is Radek Bonk next?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
For a team that used Bryce Salvador as a #1 D man, (a few years ago), not surprising.
He may make the team, as playing in the system they employ makes it possible.
Not a knock, but they play such a structured, supportive defensive system, that would make it possible.

I'm still surprised they gave the $ to Cammy, instead of a defenseman, (Niskanen).
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Aug 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
For a team that used Bryce Salvador as a #1 D man, (a few years ago), not surprising.
He may make the team, as playing in the system they employ makes it possible.
Not a knock, but they play such a structured, supportive defensive system, that would make it possible.

I'm still surprised they gave the $ to Cammy, instead of a defenseman, (Niskanen).

- puckhead17


Defense isn't the problem
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Aug 29 @ 10:58 AM ET
Defense isn't the problem
- Senor_Elias

Age is the problem and Gomez+Kaberle=more of it
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
For a team that used Bryce Salvador as a #1 D man, (a few years ago), not surprising.
He may make the team, as playing in the system they employ makes it possible.
Not a knock, but they play such a structured, supportive defensive system, that would make it possible.

I'm still surprised they gave the $ to Cammy, instead of a defenseman, (Niskanen).

- puckhead17


They were, like, 6th in the league in goals against and had Brodeur's .901SV% starting 40 games. Defense isn't the issue.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Aug 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
Age is the problem and Gomez+Kaberle=more of it
- HankdaTank


oh they signed with the team? Must have missed that.

we weren't lucky enough to sign the almighty Kevin Hayes
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:28 AM ET
They were, like, 6th in the league in goals against and had Brodeur's .901SV% starting 40 games. Defense isn't the issue.
- Todd.Cordell


Moving forward, Salvador is 38, Zidlicky is 37.
Is there enough if they falter, or leave after this season.
Defense wasn't the problem, last year.
That's all I'm saying,
Greene, Gelinas, & Larsson are solid, but would one of the UFA D men that were out there have helped?
Just a discussion/thought, not the common hockey buzz argument, not trolling by any means.
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
I don't think he was implying that defense was the issue.....

Niskanen is very good at moving the puck and stretching out the neutral zone. He would've helped create offense.

I'm fine with Cammalleri and I at the end of the day Niskanen certainly got over-paid by Washington, but I just thought I'd clarify his point.


As for Kaberle, I don't think he'll make the team and I don't think a 36 year old that is past his prime is the type of guy you want to keep around for spot duty as a 7th defenseman, but competition is good.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
I don't think he was implying that defense was the issue.....

Niskanen is very good at moving the puck and stretching out the neutral zone. He would've helped create offense.

I'm fine with Cammalleri and I at the end of the day Niskanen certainly got over-paid by Washington, but I just thought I'd clarify his point.


As for Kaberle, I don't think he'll make the team and I don't think a 36 year old that is past his prime is the type of guy you want to keep around for spot duty as a 7th defenseman, but competition is good.

- njdevils350



Thank u
I had meant moving forward, it looks like another defenseman would have been required, (losing Fayne),unless 1 or 2 forwards would be moved for one.
Love Schneider, great move signing him!
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Aug 29 @ 11:40 AM ET
Moving forward, Salvador is 38, Zidlicky is 37.
Is there enough if they falter, or leave after this season.
Defense wasn't the problem, last year.
That's all I'm saying,
Greene, Gelinas, & Larsson are solid, but would one of the UFA D men that were out there have helped?
Just a discussion/thought, not the common hockey buzz argument, not trolling by any means.

- puckhead17


Gotcha and good point...I think they will sign another veteran defenseman (Martin, Oduya?) next offseason after Salvador and possibly Zidlicky are gone
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
Thank u
I had meant moving forward, it looks like another defenseman would have been required, (losing Fayne),unless 1 or 2 forwards would be moved for one.
Love Schneider, great move signing him!

- puckhead17



Very well could be. They should certainly expect to have some growing pains over the first 30-40 games with 3 young defenseman in the lineup.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
Gotcha and good point...I think they will sign another veteran defenseman (Martin, Oduya?) next offseason after Salvador and possibly Zidlicky are gone
- Senor_Elias


That would work, surprised Oduya isn't gone from Chicago yet.
They may actually make that move, as its still early.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 29 @ 11:43 AM ET
Moving forward, Salvador is 38, Zidlicky is 37.
Is there enough if they falter, or leave after this season.
Defense wasn't the problem, last year.
That's all I'm saying,
Greene, Gelinas, & Larsson are solid, but would one of the UFA D men that were out there have helped?
Just a discussion/thought, not the common hockey buzz argument, not trolling by any means.

- puckhead17

You're right, except Merrill is more solid than gelinas. Zidlicky has only improved defensively, even as he's aged. Gelinas and Salvador are the biggest liabilities. Sal should be playing the role of 2003 Daneyko, but instead is playing the role of Stevens. Yes, a solid UFA dman (robidias) for 1 or 2 years would've benefitted us. This is why I wanted to keep fayne. Sal will get injured, gelinas will be shaky. Fayne, or a UFA, at least gives us some stability and assurance for the top pair... not freaking 38 year old Salvador.
And Kaberle is NOT that either.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 29 @ 11:47 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On Tomas Kaberle
- Todd.Cordell

(frank)ing hate both of these jerks
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
You're right, except Merrill is more solid than gelinas. Zidlicky has only improved defensively, even as he's aged. Gelinas and Salvador are the biggest liabilities. Sal should be playing the role of 2003 Daneyko, but instead is playing the role of Stevens. Yes, a solid UFA dman (robidias) for 1 or 2 years would've benefitted us. This is why I wanted to keep fayne. Sal will get injured, gelinas will be shaky. Fayne, or a UFA, at least gives us some stability and assurance for the top pair... not freaking 38 year old Salvador.
And Kaberle is NOT that either.

- MartysBetter88


And Cammalleri hasn't really lit it up in years, although with a few of the forwards you guys have, and power play time, he may get 30 goals, (he's due).
Please, (no Lecavelier jokes).
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 29 @ 11:51 AM ET
And Cammalleri hasn't really lit it up in years, although with a few of the forwards you guys have, and power play time, he may get 30 goals, (he's due).
Please, (no Lecavelier jokes).

- puckhead17

Well he was 7th in the league in 5v5 scoring. If he can stay healthy he's going to do well with Zajac-jagr's strong possession game.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:57 AM ET
Well he was 7th in the league in 5v5 scoring. If he can stay healthy he's going to do well with Zajac-jagr's strong possession game.
- MartysBetter88


Good point
I see him blending well with Zajac.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Aug 29 @ 11:57 AM ET
Everyone is cranny to you bozos!
- HankdaTank


You do realize on average Rangers have the 5th oldest team in the league right? Hanks time is running out, you guys blew it for him last year
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 29 @ 12:09 PM ET
You do realize on average Rangers have the 5th oldest team in the league right? Hanks time is running out, you guys blew it for him last year
- Senor_Elias

Yea but our average age is less than 1 year away from being top 15 youngest in the league. Your average age is like 3 years awat.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 29 @ 12:17 PM ET
plz sign him and play him 18+ minutes per night thank u
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
You do realize on average Rangers have the 5th oldest team in the league right? Hanks time is running out, you guys blew it for him last year
- Senor_Elias

But they got HAYES! He's sure to put them over the top. I think hank has a good 4 or 5 years left. He hasn't played nearly the amount of games as some goalies his age.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 29 @ 12:27 PM ET
Good point
I see him blending well with Zajac.

- puckhead17

And Zajac plays a similar game to his center backlund, who he had those stats with, and jagr can possess the puck similar to Iginla, who he also did well with.
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